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Outgoing Hong Kong Anglican leader urges dialogue, not schism on sexuality

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  • Subject: Outgoing Hong Kong Anglican leader urges dialogue, not schism on sexuality
  • From: Louie Crew <>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:34:17 -0500 (EST)

++Peter Kwong invited me to speak with Hong Kong clergy about homosexuality
when I was a professor at Chinese University (1984-87). The Communion would
be in a much less volatile state right now had more primates availed
themselves of opportunities to listen.

It is not enough for primates to beg off their "commitments" to listen
by pointing out how hostile the laws in their culture are.  When
+Peter Kwong invited me to speak, homosexuality was punishable by
death in Hong Kong, but routinely commuted to a long prison sentence
by Her Majesty's government.  Few were arrested.  The law was used
mainly to entrap unpopular officials.

I once attended a public meeting of the Historical Society featuring a
psychologist hired by the government to treat those who were arrested.
It was clear to all that he was not the brightest light in his
profession and likely did this work because he lacked much competence
to thrive in private practice. During Q&A, I identified myself as a
gay professor and asked the presenter how he squared his work with the
official support of lesbians and gays by the major professional
societies of his discipline.  He muttered something incoherent as an

At a spontaneous dinner party afterward, I was flanked on either side
by members of Hong Kong's special vice-squad for homosexuality. They
were in plain clothes but we shared business cards.  I double-dogged
dared them to arrest me, pointing out the membership Ernest and I had
at the time on Wisconsin's Governor's Task Force on Homosexuality. The
police smiled like Cheshire cats. The leader said he would like for me
to speak with their colleagues, and I agreed, but he never followed up
on the invitation.

Before China resumed sovereignty 10 years later, the local legislature in
Hong Kong decriminalized consensual homosexuality between adults. A priest
who is a friend was in the legislature at the time and told me privately
that he felt the law was changed not out of any concerns for lesbians and
gays, but rather, to provide an early warning system during the return to
China. I.e., 'If they come for gays first, we'll know they're coming for
others next.'

Meanwhile, China itself has grown more tolerant on the matter, if also
capricious. Ernest and I were well received as a couple, albeit as a foreign
curiosity, when I taught at the Foreign Language Institute in Beijing in
1983-84.  Some of my students marveled less about our homosexuality than
about our freedom "to be" without conforming to the will of the majority
culture.  It was hard for them to imagine a country where such freedom could
exist for anyone.  I was not surprised when later several from the Institute
participated in the student protests at Tiananmen Square.

Some Anglicans who oppose lesbians and gays would be terrified of a
God that could love lesbians and gays as we are:  if God does that,
maybe God loves them as they are too, and what frightful possibilities
does that reveal?

"I have not called you slaves or servants, but friends."

Grace is amazing still!

Louie Crew, Ph.D., D.D., D.D., D.H.L.
Chair of the Newark Deputation to General Convention
377 S. Harrison St., 12D, East Orange, NJ 07018. 973-395-1068  Anglican Pages


Ecumenical News International Daily News Service
03 January 2007

Outgoing Hong Kong Anglican leader urges dialogue, not schism on sexuality

By Francis Wong

Hong Kong, 3 January (ENI)--The outgoing Hong Kong Anglican leader has
urged dialogue, rather than division, to resolve divisions over
homosexuality within the worldwide Anglican Communion of some 77
million people.

"Anglicanism is inclusive. There is high (liturgical) church, and
there is a low (evangelical) church. Anglicans can co-exist and even
hold different interpretations of faith," said the70-year-old Chinese
Anglican Primate Peter Kwong Kong-Kit who retired on 1 January. "Why
shouldn't we find a common ground on homosexuality?"

The archbishop told Ecumenical News International on the eve ofhis
retirement: "Anglicans should sit down and talk about it. I don't
agree that local Anglican churches should break-away from the
Communion because of the controversy on homosexuality."



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