I had a very different impression. ++York was not at all persuasive in the presentation that he gave to Committee 26, nor was his presentation "substantive, well-informed, wise and patient." Rather, it seemed chatter off the top of his head. In his comments afterwards, he seemed perplexed that deputies in great numbers rejected his point of view. Archbishop Sentamu is a charming fellow. I enjoyed appearing with him on a panel in London several years ago and reconnected with him at a subsequent meeting of the synod of the C of E before General Convention in 2003. He is not mean spirited, but he is quite inaccurate about the processes of our convention in this instance. The real conflict in our process emerged when the House of Deputies violated our own requirements and with much fudge reconsidered a matter and reversed ourselves under pressure from our PB and PB-elect. That manipulation of process could have more long-term negative effects on our common life than any consequences of the vote itself. For how many other "urgent matters" will we be willing to suspend the rules? In Brecht's play GALILEO, a visitor is quite amazed when processes are manipulated to condemn Galileo. "But how can these things happen?" he asks. "Oh, it's easy once you get the knack of it," a high-ranking official assures him. Principles often take care of themselves when everyone agrees about them; it's much difficult and important to hold to them when we urgently disagree. Louie L1 Newark Have mercy upon us, O LORD, have mercy upon us, for we have had more than enough of contempt. Our soul has had more than its fill of the scorn of the double-plusses, of the contempt of proud. --Psalm 123:3-4 -----Original Message----- From: **************************************** Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:11 PM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: [HoB/D] Tony Clavier, "Are we able to talk?" Dear friends, I recommend +Tony Clavier's latest blog, "Are We Able to Talk?" here: http://wvparson.blogspot.com/ It comes to focus around the Abp of York's recent reflection to the C of E Synod about his visit to our Convention; and so asks some very searching questions about the structure of our church/polity, particularly in light of the disappointing results of the 'conversation'/exchange around difficult and complex issues on the HoD floor several weeks ago. We say that only GC has the authority, in its legislative processes, to handle any number of questions; but then that very legislative process seems to run roughshod over the kind of substantive, well-informed, wise and patient deliberations--ordered around mutual listening, prayer, common faith etc. etc.--that we are so evidently called to as Christians. This is a perplexing problem indeed, and one that should trouble us as we puzzle about future reforms that God may be calling us to in this little corner of the Christian Church. .....
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